Iraq & Imprecise Thinking

Bumped. I'm not sure I agree (see my comment), but it's an interesting question. --Mike

Yesterday, while standing in line at my bank (to get some quarters, because, well, why else would I actually need to consult a bank teller?), I heard the familiar & eerie voice of the presumptive Republican nominee. The voice was coming from the two televisions above the bank windows, which are constantly tuned to CNN, & from that voice I heard something like this:

"I would rather lose an election & win a war ... Barack Obama would rather win an election & lose a war ..."

(The statement was followed, of course, by that creepy smile, which flashes as embarrassingly as an "applause" sign above a studio audience.)

This line of argument (or rhetoric) is an example of imprecise thinking for a number of reasons, the most obvious of which is that, in the context of Iraq, the clear dichotomy between winning & losing is not evident. Also, another less obvious, but still paramount, fact to understand before launching into a tirade about anyone "wanting us to lose", is that, technically, we already won the war.

The War on Iraq (or the "Iraq War", or "the war for the liberation of Iraq") was executed masterfully by Coalition forces (led by the American military) in 2003. We invaded (on 20 March 2003) & toppled Saddam's Ba'athist in something like 26 days, with Baghdad falling on 9 April 2003, & the invasion declared "over" on the 15 April. & while "Mission Accomplished" was some sort of cruel hyperbole, it was not inaccurate to say we had achieved, militarily, what the Bush Administration had set out to do. (Here, I'm trying to suspend my understanding that, for all intents & purposes, we were probably lied into this war, & that we should have been focusing on al Qaeda, etc., but, you know ...)

Then came the occupation & the attempt to set up a stable, democratic, peaceful Iraq with the ability to defend herself, principally, from insurgents, many of which were former Ba'ath Party members, as well as members of the military who were purged during "Jerry" Bremer's de-baathification. Ostensibly, while military operations are still going on in Iraq (though the "surge" may have ended), it is not precise (nor is it accurate) to use terms like "winning" or "losing" or "victory" or "defeat" with regards to the situation ... All we have are benchmarks, or key attributes, that we hope the Iraqi Republic can attain to someday. I hope they can, honestly, so something good can come out of this ill-conceived conflict.

The question is, & this election will be a referendum on this, what is the best road, now, for Iraq to follow in order to become able to govern & defend herself, to promote employment, modernization, religious pluralism & moderation, & to be a stable, democratic model for other countries in the region? (Although, I must admit, I am skeptical that what has been termed "Jeffersonian democracy", including ensuring the basic freedoms we cherish in this country, can ever take root there, but I'd like to be proven wrong ...)

My feeling is, when our troops withdraw, Iraqis will stand up & take ownership in each of these areas, & not the reverse. They've already told us they want us out. Now (& this, I think, tends to be Obama's view) this will not mean total disengagement from Iraq, but we do need to take an American face off of this occupation, & replace it with one that is less detested in the region & specifically in that country.

Is that "losing", or "admitting defeat"? Absolutely not - it's intelligently & purposefully trying to find a decent & honorable end to conflict that probably should have never been waged in the first place. It's also, incidentally, a responsible way to promote Iraqi self-governance (& sovereignty) &, ultimately, stability in the region.

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Reframing

This is an interesting look at reframing the debate, Geoffrey.

To play Devil's Advocate here, in terms of the frame, the war is incredibly unpopular now and I wonder if this framework is truly beneficial to us or not (whether your goal be political victory in November or the accomplishment of said benchmarks in Iraq).

The first thing that popped into my head in reading this and trying out your new frame is what Colin Powell said: you break it you own it. Right or wrong, we broke it and taking this issue out of the frame of the war seems to emphasize the fact that we effed up big time and now have a responsibility to the country. In my head, the frame reinforced McCain and his position to stay in the country until the job is done.

Considering that your piece mostly frames this in terms of the election, not of a "victory" (however you define it) in Iraq, I wonder if this is counterproductive?

RE: Reframing

Michael,

I do see your point - & I wonder that myself. I mean, this was more than just a mental exercise, or a foray into semantics, or maybe it was a thought-exercise that I hoped would bring me to a more lucid place with this Iraq mess, because I feel truly at a loss about it for a number of reasons.

I was against the war from the moment I heard about it in the Fall of 2002, but after the invasion began I remember talking to a friend who said, "While most people on the left discusses how we were lied into this war, & continue to, you know, bitch about it, responsible people need to figure out how they're going to work with the reality on the ground there, to try and make something out of this ..." (This, while a "responsible" tact, was also incredibly naive because the most ideological members of the Bush Administration, especially Jerry Bremer & his CPA, controlled utterly the occupation, forcing actual experts out or excluding them, & picking political loyalists to toy with Iraq, essentially scuttling any hope of progress ... That is, if progress could have occurred under the best of occupational circumstances, which I don't know.)

I suppose it's just hard for me to come to a hard & fast conclusion about what the fate of Iraq should be. Mostly I was just pointing out that McCain rhetoric, not Obama's, ignores the actual chronology of events in Iraq, & what the different stages of our presence there have been. And also how I think a plan that includes a withdrawal of American troops for a more benign, peace-keeping force, not McCain's plan of a near-permanent military presence in that country, is the best way to ensure, at the very least, that Iraq regains its sovereignty ...

Does that make sense?

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Exit strategy

Thanks for the diary -- I appreciated it.

This passage made me think about a few things:

...Also, another less obvious, but still paramount, fact to understand before launching into a tirade about anyone "wanting us to lose", is that, technically, we already won the war.

The War on Iraq (or the "Iraq War", or "the war for the liberation of Iraq") was executed masterfully by Coalition forces (led by the American military) in 2003. We invaded (on 20 March 2003) & toppled Saddam's Ba'athist in something like 26 days, with Baghdad falling on 9 April 2003, & the invasion declared "over" on the 15 April. & while "Mission Accomplished" was some sort of cruel hyperbole, it was not inaccurate to say we had achieved, militarily, what the Bush Administration had set out to do. (Here, I'm trying to suspend my understanding that, for all intents & purposes, we were probably lied into this war, & that we should have been focusing on al Qaeda, etc., but, you know ...)

1.) I think taking this tack is an endorsement of the Bush administration's approach on Iraq. I know you offered a caveat at the end of the passage noting that we were given some untrue information in the months prior to the war. But not noted in the caveat was our failure to include an exit strategy in our war planning. From what you've written here, it seems as if you would posit that an exit strategy is totally separate from the mission. I have no military background and will not pretend that I do, but I would think that a mission has to have some type of conclusion, right? It's clear that the Bush administration over looked this, and so given our present situation, I would argue we're still locked in the war because we couldn't get out. If the Bush administration took a "technical" approach at the beginning, maybe we would have won (of course, we may not have even gone in).

2.) As far as getting out goes, it goes without saying we need to be careful. I can't remember where I read it or I'd cite it (sorry!), but I read something yesterday that made me ponder this: if Maliki and the rest of the Iraqi government want us out, we need to make sure that this government we're encouraging to coalesce doesn't do so around the common purpose of resenting us. In other words, we need to recognize the violence has died down, the surge was crazily and coincidentally successful, and we need to be realistic about where al-Qaeda has moved -- Afghanistan -- and move our troops there. We need to learn when to let go.

RE: Exit Strategy

It is unforgiveable that the Bush Administration did not plan for the occupation, let alone an exit strategy. You're also correct to point out that any military strategy that posits toppling & taking over a country that is 169,234 square miles, with a population of something like 29 million pople, but doesn't include these sorts of considerations, is doomed.

I guess - & I touched on this in my other comment/response but nearly enough - is that imprecise thinking leads to muddled & imprecise action. Imprecise thinking (& maybe malice) got us into this mess in Iraq, & if the presumptive Republican nominee does not know the difference between a war, an occupation, & an exit strategy - & cannot speak with precision & clarity as to exactly how it is we need to achieve the various beanchmarks for success in Iraq - then we should only expect more or a mess.

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