Attention Baby Boomers, Hollywood Execs and DC Insiders…a Friendly Message from Gen X and the Millennials “Go F#$! Yourself"

Written by: Future Majority Editors and Contributors

It gets tiring correcting our elders since they "know what's best for us" and it is really hard not being completely sarcastic in this response.

Hill.com published a story titled "Running Idol Style" which describes yet another out of touch story and ridiculous attempt by Hollywood and Washington insiders to persuade young people to vote.

Maybe they didn't get the memo, but young people are voting and it is not because of gimmicks. Young people are voting in record numbers, and voting for Democrats overwhelmingly, because there is real money being invested in programs that work and politicians as well as youth groups are doing the unfathomable, asking for our generation's vote.

When young people are treated as real voters who can help a candidate win, they turn out to vote. Just ask Montana Senator Jon Tester, Arizona Representative Harry Mitchell or Connecticut Representative Joe Courtney. They all won with the youth vote.

Donors are finally giving to youth voting programs and investing in candidates who target young people. The increase in youth voting is not because of a reality show, it's because young people are taking responsibility for our generation and creating innovative programs to get our peers to the polls (as a side note to the American Idol bitters, this was already attempted in 2004 by Showtime and didn't really go anywhere so you might want to take a look at the show "American Candidate" before dumping millions).

The creators of the show M. Allen Wilson and Akili West say they came up with the idea for their Idol-like show titled "Voice Your Choice America" because young people are not excited about politics and "candidates don't connect with the youth of America."

Oh really?

In a recent poll conducted by Celinda Lake, a respected pollster and strategist who looks at the numbers and trends rather than sitting in a room blaming young people for not voting, reported that over 58% of young people are paying close attention to the Presidential races (we might add that is more than the 53% of adults that are paying attention according to a Pew poll). This is an increase of 23 points from 2004. Eligible young voters will reach 50 million by the 2008 cycle and we are voting for Democrats overwhelmingly (56% Democratic to 36% Republican).

So while I know Wilson wants the show to engage and "entertain" us, we are not interested.

We want candidates to talk to us about what they are going to do about Iraq, we want to hear real solutions to the fact that young people under 35 are the largest group of the uninsured and we want to know that if we do straddle ourselves with the huge debt of going to college that there will actually be jobs that can support our growing families. We get enough entertainment with the American Idol try out sessions.

If you are a Baby Boomer who "hates on us" for organizing online instead of the streets, or a Washington Insider who removes us from walk and mail lists because you still think we don't vote or an Entertainment Exec who wants to engage us, you may want to check out some real ways to get young people to vote. You can read up on youth groups' tactics like Pledge Cards and Trick or Vote activities on a blog all about youth voting, www.futuremajority.com.

Even better, if you really want to help us systematically change elections and increase the number of folks engaged in politics than put your money behind things like national same-day registration (which increases young voter participation by at least 12%), full public financing at all levels, independent non-partisan redistricting and Electoral College reform. We would dare say that not only would more young people vote, more people of all ages would vote. We even bet that more young people and regular folks would run for office as well so the halls of Congress can look more like America than the men's bathroom at a country club.

We don't need a reality show to find the next political version of Kelly Clarkson, we simply want politicians to pay attention to us and ask us for our vote.

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should we start an

should we start an anti-facebook group?

Elaborate

How is that related to anything?

its a joke about Thomas

its a joke about Thomas Friedman... nm

Ah sorry

Ah gotcha, sorry I thought you were serious.

hear hear

and stop shouting at us to get off your lawn.
your lawn SUCKS, old man.

But you don't vote!

Of course, "Idol Style" is not politics, it is entertainment. You did get that right?

While your age block voting may be a "record level" (unattributed by you) it's still a very low level.

Fact is: as a block - based on age and nothing else - you tend to vote as such low levels as to make it useless for a candidate to appeal to you based on age.

I like, and agree with your suggestion on same day registration. I agree with public funding.
Your other suggestions are unachievable because of politicians.
I would add one more: have a longer window in which to vote.

And now, I am off to fix my blog. (I think an Xer blew it up!) :-)

Dude, get your facts

Dude, get your facts straight. A simple perusal of this blog will lead you to multiple references that confirm record high levels of engagement among Millennials. Start your search in the sidebar, specifically the "youth vote facts and figures" links.

In shear numbers, turnout among 18-29 year olds was on par with that of the 65+ demographic, the most reliable and sought after age demographic in politics. Source.

Your claims are baseless and amount to nothing more than a recitation of conventional wisdom long since disproved.

Reading Comprehension

Mike,
Your link leads to a Youth Vote site. Isn't that like a Republican sending you to the Heritage Foundation?

here's the paragraph that you sourced:
-------------“Young voters are a potential powerhouse in the 2008 elections,” said Kat Barr, research director with Rock the Vote. “This poll is yet another indicator that candidates who want to win in 2008 must court this large and increasingly active group of voters.” After declining nearly continuously for three decades, 18-29-year-olds’ voter turnout has increased in the past two major elections. In 2004, 4.3 million more voters under 30 cast ballots than had in 2000 – the total 18-29-year-old vote, 20.1 million, rivaled in size the much sought-after over-65 vote (23 million). Youth turnout also increased in 2006, by 1.9 million over 2002 levels.------------------

20 million vs 23 million sounds like a lost. But, that whole paragraph is deceptive.

To even give this credit, one would have to know what the numbers are for the Boomers (45-65) and the Xers (30-45).
I noticed that the senior vote was put at 65 instead of 55 plus which is where the AARP puts it and aims their turnout effort. I'm willing to bet that it swallows that number based on the fact that due to death- over 65 voters is not going to be that big compared to 18-29 years olds walking around. We probably don't have many more than 23 million over 65 people in the US..
How about comparing the rate of over 65 voters to those 18-29?

Sorry Charlie, if you compare the turnout based on population of the Seniors, Boomers Xers and 18-29, that last group would be last or second to last (I'm an Xer and can believe we may be last).

The good news is that you're actually starting vote in some measurable numbers. The bad news is that statistically, you're still not worth the big investment.

I gotta add...

Its all spin. In the above piece:

------In a recent poll conducted by Celinda Lake, a respected pollster and strategist who looks at the numbers and trends rather than sitting in a room blaming young people for not voting, reported that over 58% of young people are paying close attention to the Presidential races (we might add that is more than the 53% of adults that are paying attention according to a Pew poll).----------

Wouldn't that 58% be a part of the overall 53% of adults? Unless adults have been classified as over 30 now instead of 18?

'Young People' needs an age too. Pollsters don't use generic terms like that, they use numbers.

Its a good piece to fire up the young voter but, it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

Not really.

Not really, because young voter strategies (which does the research for Rock the Vote, is a well respected nonpartisan organization that frequently works with the folks at CIRCLE, the youth polling arm of PEW. If you're going to doubt their numbers (which I've heard repeated, btw, in a presentation from the Harvard Institute of Politics), then you must not believe in any numbers and this is a useless conversation.

Also, you don't have to rely on a press release from Rock the Vote/YVS. There are non partisan studies from other sources on all of this, but I'm hard pressed for time at the moment to go digging them up for you.

Regarding turnout - the statistic you want: rate of turnout, is the useless statistic because politicians don't win elections by courting demographics that have the highest rate of turnout. They court the demographics that have the highest turnout in terms of pure numbers. Older people may turnout at higher rates, but if Millennials, even at the lower rate, are still numerically superior, than I'd say they are worth the votes.

Additionally, we know that by 2015, Millennials will be 1/3 of the electorate and outnumber the baby boomers, so this is a good bet on the part of political campaigns.

Thirdly, your final position is quite narrow and it was such short-sightedness that in part allowed the Republicans to capture the allegiance of Generation X. We know that partisanship is a habit. If someone votes for a party 3 times before they are 30, chances are very slim they will ever abandon that party. Investments in talking to young people now pay off dividends by earning their allegiance and turning them into life long democrats.

Don't have time to back up facts?

You don't have time to look up supporting documentation for your claim?
Doesn't that ring a little hollow?

As OP have pointed out, your sources are suspect. Which is OK, but when you attach a provocative headline begging for attention and you get it, you really should be prepared to defend your assertions.

Sigh (and sources)

If you had read any other post on this blog before you, including the one immediately preceding this one (the one titled "Be Back Saturday"), you would know that I was on deadline to finish the manuscript of a book I'm writing. I shouldn't even have commented at all but I felt strongly that those comments shouldn't stand unanswered.

For information backing up the press release from Rock the Vote, you can go and download the 2006 and 2004 fact sheets from CIRCLE (Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement), which is associated with Pew. The link will take you directly to all of their youth voting fact sheets.

If you want more, check out Young Voter Strategies.

Now here's the thin. YVS and CIRCLE are pretty much the ONLY game in town when it comes to rigorously following and analyzing the youth vote. They brief candidates and campaigns, and every youth organizer I know relies on their information, as does the media.

Pollsters rarely follow the demographic exclusively, because they are hard and expensive to poll. For more on this, see this post that I wrote on the subject.

Here's a slide from a presentation by the Harvard Institute of Politics that actually states that more 18-29 year olds voted in 2004 than did those over 65:

Youth turnout higher than Senior

For a good summary of information about Millennials and political involvement, you can also check out this report by the New Politics Institute.

To address ((yet again) the poster's point that Millennials are statistically insignificant, I would refer them to this (well sourced) document:

Waiting in the wings, however, are more than 35 million more “Millennial Generation” youth between the ages of 9-17 years who will become potential voters over the next several years.2

In 2008, Millennial citizens 18-31 years of age will be nearly 50 million strong.3

By the time this entire cohort reaches voting age, Millennials will number approximately 82 million citizens4 out of an adult citizen population of just over 225 million,5 or more than 36 percent.

Therefore, the Millennial Generation is on track to be one-third of the U.S. electorate by 2015.

That is not statisitically insignificant, and you can just ask Jon Tester, Jim Webb, Joe Courtney and a whole bunch of other democrats who rode a wave of increased youth support to victory in 2006.

Now that I've provided all of this backup information, I would like to point out that neither you nor the other poster have provided one shred of evidence to back up your claims. All you've done is try to cast doubt and aspersions on mine. So now it's your turn. Put up or shut up.

What a bunch of idiots

way to slay them. what does one call such people? those who will fight tooth and nail to defend a Conventional Wisdom falsehood for no reason other than to avoid learning anything new, and to solidify the hunches that they carry.

they're not even hunches. they're prejudices. unreasonable, unfavorable opinions or feelings formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or evidence.

sheeple?
lemmings?
paultards?
troglodytes?